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rates are 39.5 wear. all along, president obama was saying i'm taking away the bush tax cuts, we're going back to the clinton era rates right? all of a sudden not really going back to the clinton era rates. that's why i was saying you know what, they might increase the rates because president obama has said it way too many times not to increase the rates at all, but although as we've sheen you, they've also hint haded they might lower rates. he's not going to go back up and take the bush tax cuts away. the final might be 37%. politico same reporting as the wall street journal on that. they say it might be about $1.2 trillion in tax increases. they say realistically it could be closer to a trillion dollars. that's similar to what we've been hearing. the democrats are supposed to have leverage, but looks like they'll get the same trillion dollars that president obama has always been asking for. finally, or two final notes on this we've got the $1.2 trillion in cuts that we might be getting. that's weird because it looked like the cuts were going to be much more than that. we'll see
within the republican party, and once that 113th convenes the president can institute obama tax cuts, and sort of dare the republican party not to vote for, you know, a new round of obama tax cuts. politically the president holds those but it's more important than that. the american people, after looking at options presented to them reclearly with a return of president obama to the white house, or initiating mitt romney presidency, chose a return of president obama to the white house and therefore gave him a very clear mandate to hold the line on the question of entitlements there when it comes to talking about entitlements, or earned benefits as progressives like to refer to it, what is the way that the president and those on the left can look and also appear to the right to be willing to compromise? what can they put on the table, if anything? >> well, i just don't think that any of us think that it is a reasonable idea to over the course of the next week and a half, over the course of the holiday season, for the president and this congress, which is a lame duck congress, to engage
and say the obama administration's proposed cuts to entitlements don't go far enough. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they have made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare and medicaid and social security from bankruptcy. >> reporter: if a deal is not reached, taxes go up and spending will be clashed. defense contractors are sending the message to lawmakers those cuts would damage the military industry and weaken national security. the ceo of task, a company that develops aviation systems and software for intelligence agencies: >> over 50% of the defense budget is procuring services and services are underscored by jobs. so of course there will be job loss if you have cuts. >> reporter: the cliff hits at the end of the year. but congressional leaders say a compromise needs to be figured out in the next couple of weeks so lawmakers have enough time to debate and pass it. in washington, danielle nottingham, cbs 5. >>> so if democrats and republicans do not reach a deal, the tax policy c
and the democrats have been the fact that obama wants to let the bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy and the in terms of spending cuts, the production republicans have just as of yesterday did a counter offer but nothing specific. there wasn't nothing to talk about in terms of cuts. >> bill: lack of specificity on what should be cut has drained the discussion into a simple let's raise taxes on the wealthy. >> yeah. there are no cuts to cover. >> bill: i don't know why kristen diane sawyer wants to raise her own taxes, do you know? >> i think there is truth in what kirsten was saying as far as it's much simpler to continue this same debate we had through the entire campaign to move on to that you subject. >> if you say you wanted to cut the department of energy or the department of education people's eyes glaze over. but it does seem to me, kristen, that there is among the network newscast there is kind of like, yeah, let's raise the taxes on the wealthy, that would be a good thing. that does seem to me that's there. >> unfortunate narrative that's been peddled it's not true but it's
presented a budget a serious real budget with real cuts, obama was supposed to give a speech in which he would respond with a counteroffer. he gave a speech we had ryan sitting in the front row. he called the ryan proposal unamerican offered nothing and read on a med scare in the next 18 months. they expect republicans are going to do this again? republicans are going to walk on this. >> moving right along to stories you can bank on this morning, have you ever booked a vacation on-line and maybe wondered where all of the fees came from? a new report says you are not alone in the hotels may be to blame. shocker. joining us with more is robert gray. i found it interesting, the phrase, drift pricing? >> drift pricing it drifts over to your bill. resort fees you go to the web site you think i am booking this for x dollars a night and it's 50 percent more according to some reports. it's everything from newspapers to the gym in some cases internet access that will you would take for granted and not even know you are getting charged for. >> similar to the airlines with extra fees. >> $1 trillio
passed a tax cut extension program that the obama administration wants and it would essentially lay the groundwork for getting a quick fix to this fiscal cliff. they could then move on to the spending cuts portion. >> sam stein, "huffington post," good to have you with us. >> go giants. >> stop that. >> had to do that. >> giants are okay. i like the packers better. remember to answer tonight's question question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. we always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says democrats need to raise the eligibility age for medicare? obama care architect dr. zeke manual joins me to talk about what will happen if the parties don't come to a deal. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... t
spending cuts. republicans realize -- >> they offer, i think obama is offering $500 million -- [ overtalk ] >> dana: critical count -- >> eric: the democrats realize that they have to touch spending if they want the 2%. >> brian: i want the power to raise the debt ceiling without asking you. >> dana: triple count cuts that were made. to get credit. wants to get credit for cutting things that were already cut in the past. his budget could not get a single vote in the senate. maybe they should bring the president's budget up again to see if it has more support. >> andrea: i want to ask about the tax rates. we learn the top 1% averaged 23% tax rate, while filers in the bottom 50% average a tax rate of 2%. a lot of people don't like to get george bush credit. he took poor people off the roles. >> bob: first, myself, i have given bush credit for doing that. in every tax bill we have. the wealthiest people in america continue to get cuts, cut, cuts. why do we have income disparity in country? rich getting richer. >> andrea: how are they getting cuts? >> eric: because -- >> bob: i told you. reag
of the benefits of cutting taxes. president obama, i hope you're watching this. >> this can be the most important step we could take to prevent another recession. that is the right time to make tax cuts both for your family budget and the national budget. resulting from a permanent basic reform and reduction in our rate structure, a creative tax cut creating more jobs and income and eventually more revenue. it will include an across the the board top to bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. the billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer, and our businessmen, will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary and these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries. >> right. that is the message that president obama needs to hear. unfortunately, there's growing evidence to indicate that he's not interested in striking any deal at all. now, he may, in fact, want us to all go over the fiscal cliff. after all, he would
will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make very tough fiscal choices, we're going to keep investing in these programs. >> reporter: he went online on youtube and twitter explaining why he thinks the rich should pay more. going over the fiscal cliff could cost america jobs. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions more. and more on the president's plan which will pitch to governors today largely spares social security and medica
is growing and the last thing we need to do is dash that now by being unable to expend the tax cuts. >> obama: joe biden was in costco. he wanted to buy some of this stuff, but i told him he had too much work to do. i wasn't going to have him building roller coasters all day long. >> cenk: and then i handed him in a pen. >> my favorite reality show on television is joe biden in costco. there was not one sample that he didn't take. >> he's like a kid at costco. >> so it's interesting. that's the first costco that opened up in d.c. and of course, there are a lot of people excited about it, and people want to go and check it out. when you look at the way costco treats its workers that's where the real story is, right? especially when you care costco to walmart. first let me tell you warehouse workers in southern california have petitioned to include wal-mart as a defendant in a lawsuit about wages. theythe average costco worker makes $17 an hour. and average wage for walmart work is $8.81 an hour. >> cenk: that is an enormous difference. costco is not out of business. they're profitable and per
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. well, 28 days to go until tax cuts expire for most americans if president obama and congress can't cut a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the nation's governors today. he said behind closed doors that there is a lot at stake not just for the national economy but state by state. some of their budgets could take a major hit if, in fact, the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. his spokesman jay carney was even tougher in going after speaker john boehner's latest proposal in saying it simply doesn't add up. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and fairy dust. >> the
to get worse under obama. republicans are totally over the barrel because all tax cuts, bush tax cuts expire unless they agree to what is being portrayed as tax cuts for the rich. >> sean: boom. >> of course, let me finish the three points. it's not the rich. it's people who are currently engaged in making money or tax breaks as they say. for the rich i'd be more in favor of tax hikes on the rich. that's warren buffett and john kerry and diane feinstein. this is a tax on people desperately trying to become rich but the truly wish don't want them to. finally, the most important point is in two years we've got to take back the senate. >> sean: i don't want to talk about the election. >> the republicans need to concentrate on making sure this economy gets blamed on obama. there are things they can do like propose tax cuts or rather tax hikes for the truly rich, ie, warren buffett. no more state and low tax deductions. cut out that hollywood foin accounting. let's go after the 1% of the 1%. forget the 1% of income earners. >> sean: there's a lot of good ideas there. >> thank you. >> sean:
republicans for the last two years hasn't passed it. >> sean: how about extending the bush tax cuts for everybody? then if the fiscal cliff is hit, then the persons that will be hit are president obama and harry reid. >> every single house republican needs to be involved in communication. if they passed a bill that extended the tax cuts for everybody and every single one of them went on local tv and local radio and said we have now passed a middle class tax extension, all the president has to do is sign it, you would have a totally different debate going on the next day. >> sean: this is what i feel is missing. the discussion, and as best i could, i'm trying to explain it, about conservative prime princi, about what's al at stake, and ai hear is or i sense a fear they don't want to go over the cliff and i sense a fear on the pr front and just even the president with the whole language of the debate seems like a defeat to me. >> i don't understand why they haven't said from day one this is the path to a balanced budget that has to involve entitlement reform and spending reform. i wen
. and they are waiting for fema to help for more than a month. >> i told president obama you told us you would cut the red tape. the middle class gets the royal finger. he said fema worked for me. fema ain't doing anything. >> steve: it a town hall that turned into a town brawl. ready to almost go over the edge? looks like you have a friend as well rick. >> as promised brian cashman and bobby valentine. bobby's first time and he wants to go face first. we'll see if that can happen. right now we'll go to break. "fox and friends" is back in two minutes. [ malannouncer ] it'that time of year again. time for cii price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. a hybrid? most
is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration, the question is, is it in their interest to trade tax cuts for the wealthy? increase for the wealthy for raising the age for eligibility for medicare, for example. i'm not sure that that's a trade that they are eager to make immediately. >> let me show you the side by side comparison. the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and republicans want to cap the same deductions for the rich but republicans want to change the age to 67 and change the way they calculate social security payments. i wonder, though, when we look at these numbers, are we that far apart in. >> i think they are definitely rather far aare part at this moment in time. yeah, absolutely. >> so there are so many ways that any of this could affect the average tack payer, obviously if taxes go up. but what about funding to states and localities. i know that one of the things that they are concerned about is that when you make cuts, that essentially those cuts are going to come on their budgets. what could happen in a meeting like thi
obama offered up cuts in the -- cuts in the tax increases that helped bring the deficit in the first place but he's already clocked out around $2 trillion in spending cuts and interest decreases over the next ten years. now, as we know, the republicans have run and beaten the democrats on this idea that they're going to cut things, that they're going to find waste and eliminate it. well guys, now is your chance! step up to the microphone. what exactly are the cuts? it is funny. we're not hearing anything from these guys after they talked about it for so long. >> stephanie: exactly. that's what the white house is saying. the ball is in the republican's court. we're four weeks from the slope hill ramp. boehner -- republicans have a plan for providing as much as $800 billion in new government revenue over the next decade and we considered the elimination of tax deductions on high-income earners but when pressed for details, he declined to say. >> we've got a plan but i can't explain it to you because you wo
of automatic spending cuts and tax increases could take effect january 1st. democrats moved by president obama and congressional republicans signaled they are willing to compromise on changing tax rates and spending reductions but the negotiations are moving very, very slowly. susan mcginnis is in washington with the latest. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. the president is sending his top two negotiators to talk with lawmakers today about possible spending cuts. he's also getting ready to take his fiscal cliff message on the road. he'll try to convince the american people the best way to avoid the fiscal cliff is to extend the bush era tax cuts for the middle class. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> reporter: president obama is putting pressure on congressional republicans and he's enlisting middle class americans in getting the gop to take action on taxes. >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: tomorrow he'll host a campaign style event where he calls on lawmakers to extend the tax rates on f
obama knows he has a deal. >> dana: i don't think -- well, one, the present doesn't have a spending cut plan. why is everyone looking at us. where is your plan, sir? now the democrats are starting to realize wait, i think they are on to us. president obama sacrificed going to hawaii with his family. going to stay behind. they will fawn over him for not going to hawaii. >> bob: that happened last year. if you accept the bush tax cut last time. family went off and obama stayed behind. it's time so just accept it. >> brian: it is the same game. the house republican and the senate democrat and president is democrat. >> eric: i can't tell you how many shows i stayed until 11:59, live show for the debt creeling to hit or the government to shut down. government would shut down, 19:55 they fixed it. obama is say nothing, i need more. boehner is saying we are further than we have ever been. >> they know where they will meet in the middle. >> dana: i think they are farther apart than ever, actually. >> eric: you do? >> dana: i do. does it show you wouldn't -- >> kimberly: absolutely not. >> kimbe
obama. the different in dollars. the president wants $800 billion more in tax increases. the republicans want approximately more a trillion dollars more spending cuts. that's the difference between the two sides just in dollar terms. there is a difference between the two sides in terms of principle. the principle centers on higher tax rates, yes or no. speaker boehner many latest offer is raise $800 billion mostly from the wealthy by limiting deductions. the president says, no, don't want that. we want to tax the rich with higher tax rates on the rich. we have a dollar difference, a difference in principle. martha: we are hung up on ideology here. if you can get the money one way and it produces a long lasting change to the tax code which both sides say they want, what seems to be the problem? >> reporter: it's ideology. the president one the elect, he says he won it on taxing the rich. he want to win the debate. whether it's the best solutioner to the economy is an entirely different story. this is a political and ideological argument and we'll see who wins. martha: there is a couple wa
't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm assuming they'd want to have a big tax cut, right? >> no. >> they would sit on their hands post-january 1st and say nothing? >> do you think republicans are so stupid in the house they don't see that move coming and say, you know what? you go ahead and you try to pass your tax cut through harry reid's senate, and we'll pass our tax cut through the house. and good luck. >> so they would just rather have everyone's tax -- i'm shock that that would be the end result. >> harry reid would rather have it his way or nobody's way? >> no, i'm saying you can negotiate in these flex three weeks about this package of tax cuts. >> i don't mean this to be directed towards you -- >> but here it comes. >> -- no, i'm just saying generally, there is such an arrogance in the media since the president won. they think that these house republicans are -- >> have nothing to say. >> -- have absolutely nothing to say. >> i do agree with that. or nothing of value. >> they act
of a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff by christmas. president obama says he would like congress to pass a bill even sooner to extend tax cuts for the middle class families. and he invited some of those middle class americans to the white house today to help make his case. >> i have got a pen. [ laughter ] i'm ready to sign it. [ applause ] so, my point here today is is to say let's approach this problem with the middle class in mind. the folks who are behind me and the millions of people all across the country who they represent. >> shepard: well, republicans are saying they need some spending cuts. that they will also have to be part of the deal. and they are accusing the president of campaigning instead of negotiating. >> i mean, every week he spends campaigning for his ideas is a week that we are not solving the problem. it's completely counter productive. the election is over. he won. congratulations. and we have got a hard deadline here, however, and it's still he he is still out on the campaign trail, kind of celebrating. >> shepard: if the president and congress cannot cu
the stimulus package. he said, this is the lesson he learned. now in retrospect i could have told barack obama in 2009 if you had a third of the package as tax cuts then republicans who are traditionally more comfortable with tax cuts may just pocket that and attack to other components of the program. that is exactly right. it appears that the president's team has finally learned that lesson, which is very reassuring. i'm going to bring in michael shure, our epic political correspondent. they're even running ads now or it seems like ads campaign ads even though the campaign is over. let me show you one of them, and then get your reaction. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> the polling is with the president. the clear mandate of this election was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my re
president obama's deal and allow the bush-era tax cuts on the wealthy to expire for now. so tax cuts for the middle class can stay in effect. but house speaker john boehner remains opposed, saying a tax hike on the wealthy will hurt the economy. >>> today, president obama is hosting mitt romney at the white house for a private lunch. after the election, the president promised to reach out to romney for his ideas. >>> and overseas, the u.s. could be getting more involved in the civil war in syria. "the new york times" is reporting the obama administration is considering options, including arming the rebel fighters there who have made progress in recent days in battling bashar al assad's forces. >>> and more trouble for president obama's expected nominee for secretary of state. susan collins says she will not back rice for the job, until more questions on the attack on the u.s. consulate in libya are answered. collins said if president obama nominates senator john kerry instead, he would have no trouble winning confirmation. >>> and breaking news out of new york. lindsay lohan has been
taxing on the rich. obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthy. obama wants to eliminate deductions and close loopholes plus cut spending for entitlement programs. the president has said there can't be tax cuts for the rich at the expense of the domestic program which is frustrating for some republicans. >> this president, i think the president with president obama he's a small minded president in big times. he is talking about 35 verses 39.6 for people who make over a million dollars. that doesn't get us out of debt. >> both sides will be taking their plan to the public this week they will meet with governors for state business he's meeting with the governors today. john boehner will be with governors plus conduct rallies with small business owners. we don't know if these two sides are going to reach an agreement any time soon and the fiscal cliff is past approaching. >> thank you very much. we are going to keep with the fiscal cliff and take a look at who is talking. charles krauthammer weighing in on the negotiations. the approach on the president and democrats didn't about the e
of president obama's plan to cut fiscal spending, invite someone for lunch and have us pick up the tab. >> we're all picking up the tab for that lunch. >> that's right. >>> "early start" continues right now. >> suddenly rich. so far we know of two winning tickets for the record-breaking powerball jackpot. >> lunch date, mitt romney meeting with president obama. >> and only in new york. a zebra hot on the heels of a pony in new york city. >> never thought about hot on the heels of a pony. okay. >> i'm christine romans. >> i'm zoraida sambolin. >> in egypt the u.s. embassy in cairo is closed. no one is being allowed in or out of the embassy now. embassy officials say the entrance is blocked by protesters as clashes erupt nearby. massive demonstrations against president morsy threatened the new young government after a degree last week extending his powers to an e uneasy level for some egyptians. americans in cairo going to the embassy for business, please don't. no one is going in or out of the embassy in cairo. >> and finding a way to steer clear of the fiscal cliff. the chief fiscal cliff neg
expect those cuts to be made. given the obama victory on november 6th, democrats sense they have somewhat of a mandate to increase taxes on wealthy as we all heard. you hear much less about cutting government spending. to make matters worse, citizens sense government waste, congress, especially senate where most members are committee chairman or subcommittee chairman are inate bias against cutting government spending. this is tom schatz. >> they don't want to give up power, jurisdiction or the money. it is also a lot easier for members of congress to run back home and say i'm fixing this problem by spending money. i'm not fixing the problem by solving the problem, and providing the benefits that people need. >> reporter: cutting spending and attending to constituent needs are often very much in conflict, jenna. jenna: we heard a lot of different strategies, haven't we, doug, the ways to tackle the debt and deficit. is there any alternative that really exists besides cutting government waste and spending? >> reporter: one potential avenue they could take would be to actually fall off the f
obama and think it should be spending cuts. 41 percent of the people who said yes, mr. president, i want you to have a second term that they think it is the most important thing to do to have spending cuts which doesn't appear to be part of the plans he put forward. >> brian: couple of things before we go to a break. i think david brooks is a conservative times, they are going to have to raise rates. 35-39 . i think if the democrats want to give this plenty there for them to mesh theirr beliefs into this. i think this is something you negotiate off of and septemberor ken conrad. get in helicopters and fly to camp david and hammer it out over the weekend . negotiate it. >> gretchen: they did it two -- we spent taxpayer money for simpson-bowls and nothing happened . so here we go again. >> steve: perhaps they will layy the ground work for the fiscal cliff that is loomming in three weekings. tick, tick. >> gretchen: unless anyone has a phone stuck in their lining. i am okay. >> brian: i am okay. >> steve: oh, viseen. no problem. >> gretchen: i have two scissors. exclusive report in the new
million in so many things. if we got the fiscal cliff. gerri: withhe dense cuts come if we do over the cliff, it will cost $100 million or over that? >> 137 million. gerri: would this put you into the red? >> it certainly could. we are still looking at obama's health care plan and what it will do to the sta budget. the federal strings are tied. i asked the president about this. the federal funds that come down to the state as you may cuts -- we can still have the strength attached to it. it doesn't give leeway to meet your unique circumstances in our state. we are all different. different budgets,ifferent employment rates, different constitutions, different laws. different styles of living and means within our budget. give us some flexibility. gerri: i expect you to be a little bit more upbeat about the fiscal cliff, but i have to tell you, you sound like a lot of people in washington today. concerns over whether these leaders can get together and find common ground and resolve this issue. it would be meaningful to stay like yours. governor, thank you so much for coming on. >> tha
. >> dana: all right. >> eric: obama have to advertise he promised to -- [ laughter ] -- cut the deficit in half? >> dana: where will it end? >> kimberly: we want an apology. >> dana: super pac ad with apology. >> kimberly: deliberately dezeed the american people. >> bob: that is not true. >> dana: we'll ponder that. coming up, 5 a 50 million reasons you might not want to win tonight's powerball jackpot. brian has all of those next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy. ♪ and then there are the good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor tool helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] without feeling queasy. that's insurance for the modern world. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. morning because my back hurt so bad. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if
obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to be balanced with talks that i heard about. >> brian: absolutely not. >> the only pending cuts is for war spending and stan tan and iraq. >> that is six billion in health care. >> we need more to save our generation and we shouldn't tax people give our generation jobs. can i please talk about how our gen
they want to see fewer taxes and deeper cuts to entitlements. the white house is saying, okay, put your plan on the table. so they're waiting to essentially hear from republicans about what their plan is to reform entitlements. as you mentioned, president obama as part of his strategy out on the road today in the suburbs of philadelphia really trying to turn up the heat on congressional republicans to get on board with his plan to increase taxes on wealthier americans and republicans have been firing back all day long. but the clock is ticking. there is not a whole lot of time left here. you remember there was that sort of harmonious tone that came out of the first meeting that president had with congressional leaders. right now we're look at a stalemate. john boehner call this had a stalemate earlier today. president obama doesn't have any specific plans that the white house is reading out to talk to congressional leaders, but they say he will remain in contact with him in the coming days. >> kristen welker at the white house. thank you vyou very much. now to governor ed rendell. the optics
cliff on new year's day. that would mean automatic spending cuts and the expiration of tax cuts for most americans. president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it, we have said it, we have said it so many times the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks since we met at the white house and are still waiting for a serious offer from the republics. >> shepard: after his meeting with secretary geithner the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said of administration officials quote today they took a step backward moving away from consensus and closer to that cliff. ed henry is live at the white house for us tonight. ed we are getting new informatio
from members of his own party. the politician suggested the gop should accept president obama's plan to extend tax cuts and debate the tax hikes for the wealthy. >> i do believe we should take things where we agree with the president and take them off the table one at a time. this would strengthen our position in the course of the negotiations. >> joining me e is former governor howard dean and congressman tom davis. hello, you guys. good to have you both. so representative davis, i will begin with you. congressman kohl says this move would strengthen the gop position. do you agree or do you think it's a risky approach? >> well, it's a little of both frankly. when you give that up, there's nothing left for the president to agree to. he's won the day. the problem with that is everybody goes off the cliff at this point. everybody's taxes go up and does that strengthen your position? the problem is you need one spokesman for the republicans. the republicans can't have a lot of members out there freelancing their own ideas. you look divided. >> we had timothy geithner defending the plan
of the deal we do what obama ran on on the tax cuts, on the tax increases and we're going to study the future spending cuts? isn't that the face-saving way out? >> it's tax reform, part of that conversation in the background. but i think simpson-bowles is more of a way out for the gop than some folks may think. i think generally the public, conservatives included, like the ideas that are enunciated in the plan. i think certainly more conservative members in the house and the senate have spoken favorably of it. it gives you a framework to begin the conversation and i was surprised that neither the president nor mitt romney actually took that as sort of a bull whip to kind of shape the argument. >> talking like that, that's why you referred to as former republican connection. >> there's a funny kind of -- there's an interesting, you know, i don't know, third option. i don't think it will come to this but there's sort of, you know, let's say we go over the cliff. the republicans do not -- they hold firm. we go over the cliff, then we'll no doubt reinstate the tack cuts of the middle class so the
the middle class tax cuts. you could see more republicans get there. and that's why i'm really glad president obama is not negotiating both for himself and for the republicans, which was sometimes his habit the last time. he's basically saying you want a bunch of cuts i don't have. don't make me propose them. that's creating some pressure on them. i think both those things will have an effect. we'll get the taxes back if we do nothing. >> the conversation in washington being separate from what it feels like the real needs of the country, a familiar feeling for me. i often have this frustration that the beltway discussion is not what the important questions are that are facing the country. in this case, i feel like as long as we're willing to talk about the economic needs of the country, as long as we're willing to talk about fiscal policy, how can it be we're not talking about new stimulus. the republicans ran against that as if the stimulus was this awful thing. but the republicans lost and we have an economic growth problem now. i wonder if you see signs of hope in what the president is ask
on monday night. >> today house speaker john boehner rejected president obama's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner said no progress was made. boehner accused democrats of not being serious of real spending cuts. but democrats say republicans are causing the hold up. the proposal consisted of $1.6 trillion in higher taxes, they also wanted 50 billion for infrastructure. the president in return approved spending cuts this year and legislation for saving up to $400 million for programs like medicare over a decade. >>> former rivals president obama and governor romney spoke in private. and what they said remains in private. the white house did release a photo and reported that they had white turkey chili and south western chicken salad. when romney arrived, a man ran up to him and said something. secret service quickly ran up to him. >>> imagine running the equivalent of a marathon a day. patty lee shows us what inspired a 25-year-old san francisco woman to spend the past five months making this cross country journey. >>> it took four months, 3,200 miles and 12 pairs of running shoes to
obama's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner said no progress was made. boehner accused democrats of not being serious of real spending cuts. but democrats say republicans are causing the hold up. the proposal consisted of $1.6 trillion in higher taxes, they also wanted 50 billion for infrastructure. the president in return approved spending cuts this year and legislation for saving up to $400 million for programs like medicare over a decade. >>> former rivals president obama and governor romney spoke in private. and what they said remains in private. the white house did release a photo and reported that they had white turkey chili and south western chicken salad. when romney arrived, a man ran up to him and said something. secret service quickly ran up to him. >>> imagine running the equivalent of a marathon a day. patty lee shows us what inspired a 25-year-old san francisco woman to spend the past five months making this cross country journey. >>> it took four months, 3,200 miles and 12 pairs of running shoes to get here: but this morning kelsie harrison ran to and through mari
middle income tax cut to the floor. >> reporter: later on today president obama will say that any deal reached in congress must include increased tax rates on the wealthiest americans. he will say that at a factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, where the company connects, makes tinker toys. that is company the white house picked for today's event because they rely on the middle class consumers who would be affected if we go off the fiscal cliff. martha. martha: that will be a major sticking point it sounds like. peter, thank you very much. bill: so what happens if your taxes or to your taxes if lawmakers don't strike a deal? the tax policy center says that 90% of the americans would see a tax hike next year in 2013. it says 121 million americans will be paying more in payroll taxes, and families making between 40 and $65,000 a year, will pay an extra $2,000 to the government. that starts in 2013. martha: some say that they're concerned that what happens in europe could also happen here down the road. look at europe's economy down the road. 11.7% unemployment. that is another record high i
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